Max writes : Charles, it seems you have no idea what a local government in rural Australia, and there are about 300 that fit this category, does. These councils do not tender out these operations they do them themselves. We do not have a local police station, out of business hours we have two police on duty to cover 3,500 sq km, six town and 10,000 people, so the police do not handle barking dogs as it is a council responsibility. Define close neighbourhood? A large number of people who live in Sydney feel alienated from government in NSW, and if you visit my area you will find the people would never vote to have a region centred on Wagga or Albury, they may as well stay with what they now have. My reasoning behind have just a national government centred in Canberra is that then although the largest proportion of pollies will come from ex capital cities they will have to compete against each other and as individual cities they will be out numbered by the regional and rural sector. Charles writes : I was born on a soldier settlement farm in the middle of the great depression in Numurkah and do have some idea of how things are in the bush. Under the 'regional gov't' model you would have a local police station (and if you live in rural Australia you will be grateful that it is not on your doorstep). Under the regional gov't model, 'close neighbourhood' would be defined as being 'within 5000 voters'. The model I have in mind is that regional MPs would be elected from an electorate of approx 5000 voters. Obviously, in an urban area this would be within a few streets. In country areas it could be quite some distance away but would still be much better than the current situation in which your local Fed MP is one of 80,000 voters! People everywhere in Australia are unhappy about government, at all levels. That is why we are struggling to redesign the system to provide 'close to the people' delivery of services and intimate representation to achieve greater accountability. In Brisbane (pop 1m approx) people are saying the local gov't Council is too remote. The creation of two or three regional govt's would be welcomed by many. I only lived in Sydney for 5 years so I would welcome some research on that but my impression is that Sydneysiders think the State Gov't is too remote and local gov't ineffectual and corrupt. I only lived in Townsville for two years but I can assure you the people there regard the State Gov't as another 'down south' organisation that collects taxes but spends most of it in and around the Capital City. The politicians in Brisbane complain that Canberra is too far away and out of touch. They don't seem to realise that Cairns is much further from Brisbane than Brisbane is from Canberra! But there are many other advantages in this proposed decentralisation. Not the least of these is the boost to regional economies with the establishment of a regional gov't. The seat of gov't becomes the centre of activity: not only political but commercial,cultural and social activity as well. Five years ago I was happy to accept the research commissioned by Ken Thomas that came up with 37 regions. Over recent years it has become obvious that somewhere in the vicinity of 100 regions would be a better solution. 100 Regions would give an average population of 190,000. With electorates of 5000 voters (approx 7500 pop), that would give an average of 25 MPs in each regional parliament. That seems about right if you look at the responsibilities I have in mind that regional gov'ts would assume. Charles writes : > Bureaucrats who have lived all their life in Canberra (and we are > now on to third generation Canberrans in the PS in large numbers) David writes : I was under the impression that the people of Canberra were the most transient in Australia. I think of my friends in Canberra and maybe 15-20% grew up in Canberra. I can imagine it's changed a bit since, and I guess my friends were more globalised than most, but then so are senior bureaucrats. And I doubt it makes any real difference whence came an ASO3, since they make no policy. Pat writes : While I think it is the case, I see that it is starting to change. Of all the local people I graduated with, a majority of them are now returning. Who can blame them, the enticement to move to the larger centres is absolutely huge, the enticement overseas even larger.